tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post5586235176632462794..comments2024-01-05T10:46:06.674-06:00Comments on Scott D. Parker: Writer: Bill Champlin Leaves ChicagoScott D. Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15293540073601809197noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-1460064478551354152015-10-31T17:32:49.372-05:002015-10-31T17:32:49.372-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.THE HALLS OF FAMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13601884232615360682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-15345016215875654812014-02-09T21:22:58.064-06:002014-02-09T21:22:58.064-06:00I grew up a huge fan of Chicago because of my fath...I grew up a huge fan of Chicago because of my father. My very first concert was Chicago in 1979. I was 7. Unfortunately I never had the pleasure to experience Terry Kath live, but his voice and amazing guitar style was already dug in my head. He was amazing. My father was the coolest! We had music blasting through our house all the time. We were known as the loudest house in the neighborhood. The best part was my father had these big giant speakers hanging on chains from the ceiling on the far end of the house so it can be heard throughout the house. I still have great memories of him blasting the first CTA Album and his all time favorite the live at Carnegie Hall album. Such great childhood memories and a huge part was learning the appreciation of music. Chicago was what did that for me. To this day the Carnegie Hall album is still one of my all time favorites. The old Chicago music will always be the best! I saw them many times in concert and loved every one of them. Also I am so glad I got to see some with Peter. He is still one of the best voices to come out of music. I really liked their 80's,90's music, but I still always go back to the old stuff. I have to say I also liked Bill, he fit great with them through those years. Jason does a great job too. They are both great bass players, but Peter's voice can't be replaced. I was very lucky to meet a lot of the guys back around 1995 in AC. They were really cool and funny. My sister in law and I spent hours hanging out and talking at the bar with them. It broke my heart my father wasn't there. He earned those conversations we had with them. RL, Lee, Jimmy, and Walt signed a 14k gold first CTA CD I had bought for my dad which I really appreciated . Tris Jason, and Keith were also really cool as well. But we didn't see Bill that night which would have been cool. He is really a talent. I live in NYC and this past Friday 2/7 my sister in law decided she wanted to go spend her birthday at a jazz club in the city. As I was looking online I saw that Danny Seraphine's Band CTA-California Transit Authority was playing at one of them. AND Bill Chaplin was playing with him. Cool! We had never heard Danny's band, so we decided we all would go. Unfortunately she got sick and we didn't go. But since we couldn't go, I went online to check out the band. All I can say is they are awesome! Danny sounds better then ever and he has a great band. I love Chicago and they have a great line up now. but Danny's band sounds and plays like old school Chicago. If your a big Old School Chicago fan, check out the California Transit Authority album- Full Circle. He does Introduction, South California Purples, Happy cause I'm going home, plus a few more. It gave me chills they were so good. I wish he would do more covers.. His sound is so recognizable and he really is an amazing drummer. So my wish! Is that Peter, Danny, and the band could work things out and just get back together for a reunion. People would go nuts! Also they can all play. Think about it. Hits with all of the singers. Ok so they may have two drum kits , and why not bring back Laudir, Donnie, Chris, and Dwayne. They can all play and along with the current lineup. There are more than enough songs for everyone to play to their contributions. It also won't be so rough on them. I just don't want it to be to late. The original 6 are still performing and pretty dam good. It could be a two night show. There are just so many songs..... But myself as well as I am sure tons of fans would love it and be there. I want nothing more than my father to see this. He is getting up there in age too. Long live Chicago!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-80976862170634277582014-01-12T21:08:00.610-06:002014-01-12T21:08:00.610-06:00I worshipped the band in the 70's and when Ter...I worshipped the band in the 70's and when Terry Kath died and James Guercio no longer produced their music, they became pop mush. Granted, Night and Day wasn't original music but it had the 70s sound. Champlin was and is a HORRIBLE singer. He tries to squeeze 3 inch notes through a rusty 1 inch funnel. Absolutely impossible to listen to him. They lost their edge decades, not years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-68640711343605746452013-08-01T02:17:42.597-05:002013-08-01T02:17:42.597-05:00The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to...The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to me, not as interesting as the "why" Champlin joined and stayed for such a ride. And I'll say it for Scheff and Howland and anyone who gets a break to play with these guys...they make a buttload of money touring. Yes, it a grind and it wears on creativity. But holy crap...look at the repertoir and the draw!? Sure, some of the guys take breaks for other things to flex the muscle a little, but they know where the bread gets buttered and they're all between 50 and 70 now! Listen to the 60s, 70s, 80s,90s and 2000+ music from these cats and respect the footprint of a band that's played every venue there is. Pay your homage cuz you're gonna miss it one day. And still not in the RR HOF? Really? Really?kwkdrawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17629940564300905670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-68175929040472634382013-08-01T02:17:30.204-05:002013-08-01T02:17:30.204-05:00The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to...The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to me, not as interesting as the "why" Champlin joined and stayed for such a ride. And I'll say it for Scheff and Howland and anyone who gets a break to play with these guys...they make a buttload of money touring. Yes, it a grind and it wears on creativity. But holy crap...look at the repertoir and the draw!? Sure, some of the guys take breaks for other things to flex the muscle a little, but they know where the bread gets buttered and they're all between 50 and 70 now! Listen to the 60s, 70s, 80s,90s and 2000+ music from these cats and respect the footprint of a band that's played every venue there is. Pay your homage cuz you're gonna miss it one day. And still not in the RR HOF? Really? Really?kwkdrawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17629940564300905670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-87699314633108517152013-08-01T02:16:48.403-05:002013-08-01T02:16:48.403-05:00The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to...The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to me, not as interesting as the "why" Champlin joined and stayed for such a ride. And I'll say it for Scheff and Howland and anyone who gets a break to play with these guys...they make a buttload of money touring. Yes, it a grind and it wears on creativity. But holy crap...look at the repertoir and the draw!? Sure, some of the guys take breaks for other things to flex the muscle a little, but they know where the bread gets buttered and they're all between 50 and 70 now! Listen to the 60s, 70s, 80s,90s and 2000+ music from these cats and respect the footprint of a band that's played every venue there is. Pay your homage cuz you're gonna miss it one day. And still not in the RR HOF? Really? Really?kwkdrawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17629940564300905670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-46324786256797677942013-08-01T02:12:43.493-05:002013-08-01T02:12:43.493-05:00The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to...The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to me, not as interesting as the "why" Champlin joined and stayed for such a ride. And I'll say it for Scheff and Howland and anyone who gets a break to play with these guys...they make a buttload of money touring. Yes, it a grind and it wears on creativity. But holy crap...look at the repertoir and the draw!? Sure, some of the guys take breaks for other things to flex the muscle a little, but they know where the bread gets buttered and they're all between 50 and 70 now! Listen to the 60s, 70s, 80s,90s and 2000+ music from these cats and respect the footprint of a band that's played every venue there is. Pay your homage cuz you're gonna miss it one day. And still not in the RR HOF? Really? Really?kwkdrawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17629940564300905670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-56728194782885760272013-08-01T02:08:06.992-05:002013-08-01T02:08:06.992-05:00The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to...The "why" of the BC Chicago split is, to me, not as interesting as the "why" Champlin joined and stayed for such a ride. And I'll say it for Scheff and Howland and anyone who gets a break to play with these guys...they make a buttload of money touring. Yes, it a grind and it wears on creativity. But holy crap...look at the repertoir and the draw!? Sure, some of the guys take breaks for other things to flex the muscle a little, but they know where the bread gets buttered and they're all between 50 and 70 now! Listen to the 60s, 70s, 80s,90s and 2000+ music from these cats and respect the footprint of a band that's played every venue there is. Pay your homage cuz you're gonna miss it one day. And still not in the RR HOF? Really? Really?kwkdrawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17629940564300905670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-73392078888213808422011-01-11T17:06:54.301-06:002011-01-11T17:06:54.301-06:00I'm coming to this post very late, but let me ...I'm coming to this post very late, but let me tell you: You nailed it. This is the definitive "why Champlin in Chicago matters," and I say this as someone who's been a Chicago fan since about 1972.<br /><br />I saw them last year with Pardini, and in many ways, the group sounded better than they have in a while. Just the same, I couldn't quite get over Bill Champlin not being there. <br /><br />As consolation, I'm wearing out his last CD. <br /><br />Thanks for this essay. You made my day.The New Albanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757531658514051905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-29039849708088497342010-11-23T21:44:45.520-06:002010-11-23T21:44:45.520-06:00i probably won't go see chicago in concert aga...i probably won't go see chicago in concert again. i was fortunate enough to see them a few years ago at the hard rock. i wish the sons would tour and play in south florida. that would definitely be cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-19797955939720541722010-05-21T12:11:38.037-05:002010-05-21T12:11:38.037-05:00I don't blame Bill one bit. Chicago has their ...I don't blame Bill one bit. Chicago has their own thing going and the man has too much talent to be a sideman although he did spawn some hits for Chicago during his stint with them. He's getting on in years and it's time to do what he does best which is Bill Champlin, not BiCh...Dragonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-25541855098222884182010-04-18T20:53:18.835-05:002010-04-18T20:53:18.835-05:00Bill didnt bring the hammond organ sound into chic...Bill didnt bring the hammond organ sound into chicago i would say he brought it back. Listen to the first five or six Chicago albums Robert Lamm played the Hammond here and there listen to the song South California Purples it has a hammond organ line most of the way through. It is too bad that Bill is gone he was a great addition to the band yah its true his voice in recent years is not what it once was it has lost some power and depth but hey Shite happens.Here is a good question to all of you fans what is the best Chicago album with Bill Champlin i say for sure Chicago 16-1982.beaughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15579439312007988287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-27689285324386601272010-02-27T14:26:37.414-06:002010-02-27T14:26:37.414-06:00Interesting thread. I, too, have been a fan since ...Interesting thread. I, too, have been a fan since '69. I have to admit I will miss Bill's soulful vocals and talents on both the B3 and guitar. Nothing pumped me up more at a concert than to see Bill come up front and open a song with his guitar strapped on. <br /><br />I don't think you can replace someone like Bill. I remember when Jason took over for Peter. He's done well, but just not quite......When Danny "left", Tris came in and has done well, but just not quite.......Bill did an admirable job bringing that "Kathness" back to the group with his vocals. I don't think the replacement is going to be quite the same.........Tom - Lexington, Kynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-53142026849146689232009-12-23T20:57:28.725-06:002009-12-23T20:57:28.725-06:00Having been a Chicago fan through every decade the...Having been a Chicago fan through every decade they have been together (I first saw them in '69 at the College of Wooster in Ohio- and 100 + times since )I can add some insight...<br /><br />Lamm played the B3 almost as much as he did the piano in the early days-- BC-- (before Champlin). The addition of Champlin allowed Bobby to move "up front" with the rest of the front men (Parazaider, Loughnane. and Pankow) playing his strap on keyboard. Champlin primarily "stayed back" soulfully & masterfully playing the B3 and adding incredible vocals. <br /><br />Bill was an incredible addition to the band and his absence will be missed. There always seemed to be a tension between Lamm and Champlin, as often occurs when 2 great talents come together... but the tension resulted in a great sound for the band. <br /><br />Now living in Nashville, I wonder if Champlin might 'hook -up" with Chicago's original drummer Danny Seraphine and cut some new tunes, or at least do some studio sessions. Danny was a fantastic finesse drummer-- <br /><br />I will miss Bill's on-stage presence with Chicago. Champlin was, and still is a class-actAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-79573139467974644862009-11-04T17:08:19.207-06:002009-11-04T17:08:19.207-06:00After buying the Chicago SoundStagedvd, I was disa...After buying the Chicago SoundStagedvd, I was disappointed by Bill Champlin's singing. It sounded overembellished and nasal. Being a 40 yr fan of Chicago (especially Terry Kath and Keith Howland) I think Robert Lamm or Keith singing the songs Terry Kath sang would be a big improvement.<br />I don't feel they even need to replace Bill Champlin because they other guys are excellent singers.Guitarman5https://www.blogger.com/profile/18011222072529745008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-86611269211214984892009-08-24T17:32:24.617-05:002009-08-24T17:32:24.617-05:00This will hopefullly allow Robert Lamm to take bac...This will hopefullly allow Robert Lamm to take back some control of the band, after 20 odd years Champlin's dreadful AOR voice and songs. You cannot compare his voice with Terry Kath.La Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06215099801162214519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-69299502908929981312009-08-20T10:40:43.483-05:002009-08-20T10:40:43.483-05:00Chicagoguy - I don't know any details other th...Chicagoguy - I don't know any details other than the speculation. On Lamm's site, he did write "It's ALL good." Perhaps, and despite the nature of the departure, everyone's happy with the outcome. Can't say, really. Champlin, on his forum, did mention new things! My only complaint: BC's solo tour is not coming to Texas.Scott D. Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293540073601809197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-11043404091914384462009-08-20T09:58:59.050-05:002009-08-20T09:58:59.050-05:00Scott -
Good post; very interesting take. I was ...Scott - <br /><br />Good post; very interesting take. I was surprised to read on Lamm's MySpace page a VERY short "adios" to Champlin. In fact, after 28+ years as a bandmate, it seemed suspiciously curt. Add to that no other member that I can see has commented, and something smells fishy. Do you or anyone else here know how this break-up went down? Rumors are that Chicago's lawyers notified BC via an e-mail that he was out. I find it hard to believe that BC would exit of his own choosing in the midst of a tour (that appears to have another month or so of gigs left). I see by some of the other posts that BC had made some comments about the regimented set list etc..., and clearly his side work was becoming an issue with someone in Chicago. Two weeks after he released a solo album the split is announced? It seems unlikely this was a mutual decision to me. I bet he's relieved to be able to now do new material and take on new challenges, and ultimately, will be OK with all this. You could argue that maybe he was asking for it, but I just suspect BC was sucker-punched. And if the e-mail firing rumor is true, that's a pretty sad way to end a nearly 30-year relationship.chicagoguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-59892476824904651292009-08-17T10:39:39.532-05:002009-08-17T10:39:39.532-05:00Mark - I agree with you re: this is a good thing f...Mark - I agree with you re: this is a good thing for BC. He's chaffed at singing the same ol' songs ad infinitum. I look forward with great eagerness for the next BC project.<br /><br />And, you never know: it might be a good thing for Chicago. Not sure how right now, but it is possible. The only downside is if the EWF/CHI collaboration album takes shapes, one of the most soulful singers won't be there.Scott D. Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293540073601809197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-72660263293178232342009-08-17T09:06:55.249-05:002009-08-17T09:06:55.249-05:00This is the best thing that could've happened ...This is the best thing that could've happened for Champlin. He'd been starving creatively for quite a while. <br /><br />The first thing I thought about was the song "Plaid" from the Stone Of Sisyphus project.<br /><br />You could also sense his annoyance during some of the band's interviews. It's been a good run and this ensures a future of creativity from one of the most gifted musicians around.Mark Gunnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05980447888508005563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-62812651305147106142009-08-12T09:45:53.690-05:002009-08-12T09:45:53.690-05:00DJP - Good point about Cetera's absence (was N...DJP - Good point about Cetera's absence (was NOT going to write 'hole'). I think BC's replacement will be a hired hand and not a true member of the band that BC was.<br /><br />Conkillotti - I'm pretty sure there was little if any B3 in the early CHI albums. Lamm played electric piano and piano. True, he sings about "B3s" on "Flight 602" but the only song I can remember there being a B3 was "Listen." I might be wrong, though. Time to go back and listen (heh) again.<br /><br />Perplexio - (BTW, I recognize your name from the other boards; thanks for stopping by.) Since modern CHI produced no new albums, my interest in modern CHI waned as well. It wasn't until yesterday that I actually listened to any of the 80s material at all. Instead, I've gone searching for live recordings of the originals and just marveled at how good they really were. I've said it before, SOS was CHI's last great album because they made it for themselves. Everything since, has been for someone else. True, there are snatches of past glory (90 Degrees, Already Gone, Come to Me, Do) but they are few an far between. I've even gone as far as hacked my version of CHI 30: Feel (with horns) is track #1 and I've deleted the other version from my Mac. I even burned a copy of 30 with a different song order. The problem there was I still hated tunes like "Long Lost Friend" so 30, for me, is now tracks 7-11 + Feel + Caroline. [stepping off soapbox now]<br /><br />Fenderbass57 - Since I started listening to CHI, Champlin was just always there. I've gone back and tried to imagine myself a CHI fan in 1982 listening to the 'new' sound. It's really different. Back in the day of the originals, you can just hear the music and know which guy wrote the song, by and large. You had the RL-songs, the TK-songs, etc. Take "Oh Thank You Great Spirit" - That's a Kath solo tune if there every was one. Ditto with BC. He wrote songs that tailored his tastes to the CHI sound. Yeah, he was always bluesier than the rest of CHI but that's what we get from a group of eight guys. Now, I would say that CHI circa 2009 and CHI circa 1969 are vastly different sounds. To me, CHI 30's "Already Gone" was a throwback to old CHI. I would agree that BC seemed uninterested in the same 15 CHI songs played every year. Guess that's why he tried to change things up. Guess we'll see what comes next. I'll be there.Scott D. Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293540073601809197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-57118141042563911542009-08-11T22:12:42.528-05:002009-08-11T22:12:42.528-05:00I personally am happy about the parting of the way...I personally am happy about the parting of the ways. I don't feel that Champlin added but more detracted from the sound that the band originally had! In later years he appeared disinterested in the music so I think it was time for a divorce!fenderbass57https://www.blogger.com/profile/04294227703082952811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-80863310252267067882009-08-11T12:40:28.659-05:002009-08-11T12:40:28.659-05:00I've grown up with Chicago. I became a fan at...I've grown up with Chicago. I became a fan at age 11 when Chicago 19 was hitting it big. I wasn't that much a fan of 19 (I'm still not) but because 19 was so popular-- radio stations started playing more of the stuff from 16-18 and THAT's what caught my interest. <br /><br />It was predominantly the way Bill & Peter's voices sounded together on Chicago 16 and 17 that made Chicago my favorite band for several years.<br /><br />I made it a point to pick up all of Bill's solo albums on CD and even a couple of Lee Ritenour's albums that featured Bill on vocals (either lead or background or both). <br /><br />While my interest in Chicago has waned with their lack of output over the years and other bands have supplanted them as a favorite (Toto in particular) their music has been a constant in my life since 1988 and when times get tough, I often turn to their music to take me back to happier times... it helps me get through the rough spots that I sometimes travel over in this journey of life.<br /><br />Bill's departure has done it for me. My last Chicago concert was with Earth Wind & Fire in 2004 and barring a reunion tour that will remain my final Chicago concert.<br /><br />I'll always treasure the memories but the current product is a mere shadow of what the band once was... let alone a mere shadow of what they're actually capable of being.Perplexiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09971805688658949769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-42053008128243508052009-08-11T11:29:35.008-05:002009-08-11T11:29:35.008-05:00Scott:
You might say that Champlin revived the B3...Scott:<br /><br />You might say that Champlin revived the B3 sound, rather than introduced it to Chicago. Listen to everything up thru "Carnegie Hall" and you'll hear plenty of Hammond.Conkillottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-440764593580848794.post-50700859323241551082009-08-11T10:19:50.410-05:002009-08-11T10:19:50.410-05:00As I expressed over at the Chi blog, my worry is t...As I expressed over at the Chi blog, my worry is that Chicago won't be able to attract a talent of nearly Champlin's stature. He played keyboard, guitar, drums — and did I even see him do some sort of horn once?<br /><br />Jason Scheff is the nicest guy ever to pick up a bass, but the hole Cetera left is still there. Now what?<br /><br />Fan since II was new, and I'm concerned.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.com